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DEAR EDL

(This letter is in response to one we got from the EDL you can read it at the bottem of ours)

Dear EDL,

We are not the UAF. We’re not being shipped in from student halls. We know these streets and we know the people here because we live with them. And we’re not threatening you, we’re telling you what will happen. This isn’t some village in the North. And these aren’t trots and stalinists your going to be fighting.
This is the East End.

You come here you will get hurt. By us? Nah, sure we will be out on the day but our biggest worry is the youth round here getting nicked having a crack at you.
Every time you threaten to come we see our community getting harassed by the police, even your little mobs stopping by on their way back to Croydon get run out of the area under police protection or end up in the hospital, and You think you can take Tower Hamlets?

Twice you’ve tried to come here, once to stop the UK-IC conference at the Troxy and once hidden under a rainbow flag. And Twice you’ve bottled it.

You go on about what Islam is and what it means, most people round here are Muslims, but not the type you talk about, sure we don’t agree with religion, but the people round here don’t believe in what you say. How could we live here if they did? How could we drink in pubs? Walk home at night? Or even share the same council tower blocks?
The groups that believe in the madness you moan on about are like you. From outside the area, coming in to start trouble. And like the other groups who have been kicked from the mosques, you will be sent away as well.

See you on the 3rd unless you bottle it again.

Tower Hamlets ALARM

This is In response to The All London Anarchist Revolutionary Movement (ALARM) have posted a open ‘Threat’ to the English Defence League ahead of the Tower Hamlets Demo 3/9/11.

Dear Alarm Members.
I have today sat and read your threats ” We have only one message for the EDL, steer clear of Tower Hamlets. Coming here on Sept 3rd will be a risky enterprise for you. The EDL will not only be facing mass opposition from Bangladeshi Eastenders or even angry Muslims but secular forces ranging from local youth, trade unionists, street gangs, militant anti-fascists – much to their dismay, the EDL will painfully discover there are substantial numbers of white Eastenders who will physically oppose them on Sept 3rd.”.
We in the EDL would like to inform you that we ” The English Defence League” have just reached OUR 2 year point and in this time we have had bigger threats than that placed by some people who are trying to make a name for their selves.
We have read the constant ratings of what the UAF thought they could do to us but now the left winged reds who are funded by labour and who are the governments whipping boys can only pull 10 to 20 members at a counter so have now had to fill hate and join ranks with the likes of MAC and MDL ( as you are also doing).
We within the English defence league our Proud of our history and our culture. We want to keep England “English”.
We are not a government controlled movement as you so wrongly have quoted Neither are we football thugs or are we trying to cause a divide with in the ” working class ” people as you have also implied.
The members of the English Defence League come from many walks of life. We unite because we can see what you clearly can not.
The threat of political Islam Is as real as it can be with 92 known sharia courts already practising within the UK. The government appease Islam over its own people.
Mohammed’s example was crystal clear. According to the Sira, the sacred biography of Mohammed, he was involved in over 65 acts of jihad, or as we say today, 65 acts of terror. And that was in a 9 year period. Bin Laden was small fry, in comparison to Mohammed. Yet many read his words and follow him. In a so called peaceful religion.
This makes a great read.

““Great” arab inventions. Obama’s Cairo speech.
Muhammad, founder of Islam and author of Koran, was mentally sick psychopath and pedophile, could not read and write. While in seizure, he uttered disjointed phrases, which his followers represented as Allah divine afflatus. This is the history of Islam that muslims and “honest and free” western media would not like you to know. These facts show that islam is not a religion, but a cult.
Read: “History of Middle Ages” Professor Nikolay A. Osokin, Textbook (in Russian), Publishing house: Imperial University Printing Office, Kazan, 1888, 771 pp.; Publisher: ACT, Harvest, Moscow, 2008, 672 pp. (reprint)
In his Cairo speech, Obama accredited to arabs all fundamental inventions human race made over centuries. None of the Obama mentioned is true, as every person graduated from credible high school knows. However, it does not mean that arabs, great nation with centuries of history, has no inventions critical for human life. They have and here they are:
1. Ethnic Cleansing – invented centuries ago, implemented over 2000 years ago in Israel when they occupied Israel and disseminated Jews around the world; from 1948 through 1953 arab countries expelled a million Jews and stole their properties; in 1974, Turkish armed forces invaded Cyprus, captured 36 percent of its territory, partitioned the island, implemented a policy of “ethnic cleansing” and sent close to 200,000 Greek Cypriots southward as refugees who lost their property, desecrated churches and cemeteries, and in 1983 declared the northern Turkish Republic of Cyprus; in 1999, Kosovo Liberation Army stormed homes of the last 15 Jews in Kosovo’s capital, who had to clear out, with just the clothes on their backs; recently, Jews in Yemen were under attack and have been relocated to Britain.
2. Genocide – invented by Turks and implemented in 1915–1917 in Armenia: over 1.5 mln. Armenians, including children, died.
3. Holocaust – invented by Haj Amin al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, in 1920s in Palestine (occupied territory of the State of Israel); implemented in Palestine in 1920s-30s; in 1941, Haj Amin al Husseini brought the Holocaust idea to Hitler and helped him to implement Holocaust in Europe 1941-45; he organized in Europe two islamofascist brigades that operated under SS control, had their own concentration camp, and killed tens of thousand of Europeans, including Jews.
Islam is based on three fundamental principles:
1. Stealing
2. Killing, and
3. Lying
Koran says:
“Slay them wherever you find them. Fight against them till idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme” (Sura 2:190),
“Seek out your enemies relentlessly” (Sura 4:103),
“Make war on them till idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme” (Sura 8:36),
“When the sacred months are over slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Arrest them, beseige them and lie in ambush everywhere for them” (Sura 9:5),
“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you” (Sura 9:121),
“When you meet the unbelievers on the battlefield strike off their heads” (Sura 47:3),
“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate” (Sura 66:7).
Koran is Islamic Mein Kamf. Islam is fascist cult and must be eliminated from the earth.”

I am confused by your post Alarm members as I was under the understanding that an “Anarchist” stood against Oppression yet you stand with one of the worse religions for oppression and you are playing into the governmental hands and joining the ranks with the left of being the government’s whipping boy . People in glass houses really should not throw stones.

See you in Tower Hamlets on the 3rd of September.

Kind regards
The English Defence League Angels ….

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  1. I'm rubbish at thinking of names
    July 21, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    Weird letter from them, reads like one of the 9/11 truth posts on indymedia, all numbered paragraphs and bad citations.

    What do they think they’re doing? They bottled it twice already and they think that they can come back now? They’re going up against a whole borough, a borough who’s confidence must has been bolstered to a feeling of almost invincibility by the fact that the “mighty” EDL have bottled it already – TWICE!

    The only danger in this is the UAF, hopefully they won’t play the race card like they did last time. This needs to be about the people of Tower Hamlets against the EDL, none of this brown v white, “are the jews coming to get us?”, WAG are racist shite that they whipped up in 2010. I don’t see this being to much of an issue though, the UAF have made themselves irrelevant to this community just as many times as the EDL have already!

  2. A
    July 22, 2011 at 6:11 am

    UAF didn’t play the race card last time! The UAF aren’t the biggest problem, the biggest problem are the EDL. And like it or not, the UAF is established through the United East End that is linked with LGBT muslim groups, mosques, and trade unions.

    I think the UAF has its faults, very big political faults – especially its support for “multi-culturalism” (i.e. cultural separation, monoculture ) – and its lack of ability to promote and develop a commonality between people from different backgrounds rather than reinforce these separate identities i.e. “muslim”, “black”, “white”…etc. At the end of the day anything which undermines, divides and demobilises the ability of working class people to find common ground with each other and organise themselves to resist attacks on their living standards by the bosses, are against working class interests – and that includes the EDL, MAC and other extremists.

  3. Harry White
    July 22, 2011 at 8:53 am

    As the EDL admitted last summer coming to Tower Hamlets was ‘a suicide mission’, wouldn’t it be easier, cheaper and indeed quicker if they all just went to Beachy Head instead of Tower Hamlets?

  4. Harry White
    July 22, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Oh – and isn’t it rather strange that the EDL rely on a book published in the back of beyond in Tsarist Russia in the nineteenth century for their arguments against Islam? You’d have thought if there was any real basis to their claims they could find a more recent book – and one written in English – to substantiate them.

  5. why2four
    July 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Going back to the origin of ethnic cleansing, the Jews were spread round the Mediterranean following the Jewish Revolt of 69AD, which the Romans brutally crushed; the Romans famously not Muslim. You’re talking nonsense about a million Jews being expelled from Arab countries between 1948 and 1953 – Wikipedia says 800,000 to 1,000,000 between 1948 and the early 1970s. If we’re talking about people being expelled and their property stolen, the Zionists have been very actively doing that since 1948.

    Genocide invented by the Turks? I think not! Julius Caesar, for example, wiped out whole tribes during his conquest of Gaul (France) before the birth of Christ.

    As for the Holocaust being implemented in Palestine in the 1920s and 1930s, the British government, if that had happened, would be complicit as that was part of the British Empire at the time, the mandate being awarded by the League of Nations following the First World War. As for the notion of the Holocaust coming out of Palestine, that’s more utter nonsense. The idea of killing the Jews emerged within Germany over time, as is well documented.

    It’s a disgrace that history teaching in schools has fallen to such a level that the sort of tripe in the EDL letter can be seriously put forwards.

  6. alan on tyneside
  7. A
    July 24, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    the letter from the EDL is proper fucking weird.

    they are such massive bigoted bastards.

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