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The real EDL

I’ve had two people disagree with me when handing out FUK EDL leaflets asking for people to come and stop the EDL. Neither of them said anything but they stopped and stared with pure fucking hatred. They didn’t come up and say anything .They knew that if they went and declared to a “fellow” white Englishman their views then in minute’s local youth would have organised themselves and they would have to run out of the area.
When they can’t sprout their crap on the streets they do it online instead. Here is what they EDL have been saying on our Blog. This is just a very small amount of the racist shit they post here.
(sorry for the shit views, these are not our words but the EDLs followers)

Submitted on 2011/08/31 at 6:41 am from Fuckoffhome@nopakis.co.uk
Fuck off home we all hate u fucking terrorists. U shouldn’t try to change our country them we might of let u stay, civil war soon

Submitted on 2011/08/31 at 2:37 pm from jimsnead@rocketmail.com
Can’t you lot see the big picture here ? Whether the EDL win or loose the battle however you define that they win by drawing massive public attention to the Islamic shit hole of Tower Hamlets and the problem of scrounging Islamic immigrants. Islamohatred is growing rapidly in the UK and Europe
Submitted on 2011/08/31 at 6:38 am from ILOVEEDL
The more u push us the closer u will get to forcing us into civil war and then u will lose why can’t u be like the chinese and keep yourself to yourself. There’s a lot of do holders in the uk but believe me most of us really hate u and wish you’d fuck off home and murder your own people not us
Submitted on 2011/08/31 at 12:51 am From scousehammer@twitter.example.com
Yer dirty Muslim bastards, I’ll be there sober lets see if you dare face us angry English lions.
Submitted on 2011/08/30 at 11:10 pm From ddced@hotmail.com
sweden are coming ns

Submitted on 2011/08/31 at 4:43 pm from Biff
Standing with the UAF helping the invasion of fascist Islam ? LOL Sounds like the Vichy in WW2

Submitted on 2011/08/30 at 9:38 pm from peterwdawson@live.co.uk
ur shitting it u muslim cunts and u want to be because were coming. and no fuckers are going to stop us……edl coventry division

Submitted on 2011/08/30 at 9:15 pm from steve
The foreigners don’t see what is coming , a Dog born in a stable isn’t a Horse ,
The Nazi’s tried our patience – what happened to them ???
The English will wipe the filth from OUR country
It’s happened before – it will happen again
UAF – MDL – ANL – you will all fail
E.D.L.NEVER SURRENDER …
DC19

Submitted on 2011/08/30 at 8:48 pm from simonmsmith@hotmail.co.uk
how are we traitors were sticking up for OUR country not wanting foreigners to take over, muslims preaching their hatred on our streets trying to threaten our community’s with their noncing and in-bread antics. if people like em that much fuck off an live in there country

Submitted on 2011/08/30 at 8:45 pm from upklynx@gmail.com
Bet a fukin scummy Muslim did this! E E EDL!!! E E EDL!!!

Submitted on 2011/08/10 at 6:49 pm from djdd42@yahoo.co.uk
make are day you filthy scum we will march threw you shit hole its our country now fuck of back to your slums edl future of Briton

Submitted on 2011/08/09 at 10:41 am from hulululululul@msn.com
paki cunts

this Saturday stop the EDL

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  1. Max
    August 31, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Who are the real Fascists?

    We have a democracy here in the UK; it is every person’s right to protest. It is fascism to stop them protesting. UAF and all of the rag tag frustrated anarchists and Marxists are the real fascists. The Muslims describe you as swine and apes in their so called Holy Book; the similarity with Hitler’s description of the Jews is undeniable. You are mobilising to defend a Fascist Ideology. Islam is the problem no the working class patriots of the EDL!

    • September 1, 2011 at 9:56 am

      people have the right to protest. other people have the right to confront protests they disagree with. Some muslims fringe groups do hate us, but most dont, we know this beacuse weve been talking with them about the 3rd.

    • Old Rubber Ducky
      September 1, 2011 at 12:35 pm

      You have a very off view of fascism, and seemingly, no real working understanding of the freedom of speech, Islam, or democracy.

      tldr; your argument is so invalid I might just facepalm.

      • Old Rubber Ducky
        September 1, 2011 at 2:50 pm

        odd* and that was supposed to be a response to Max, not THA.

  2. Old Rubber Ducky
    August 31, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    It’s just…I really can’t quite…

    Honestly, I’m lost for words. Which is unfortunate, considering they can hardly spell any.

  3. oi23
    August 31, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    “in-bread antics”

    Standard!

    😉

  4. Arthur
    September 1, 2011 at 10:32 am

    It’s you Alarmists that are causing this to be some sort of battle, EDL is only there because you have failed, where were when gay pubs were attacked and closed down and a poor guy was paralysed, where were were you when a gay councillor is heckled from the public gallery at every council meeting.
    Why didn’t you protest when Rahman gave in a fraudulent petition for a Major and followed it up with a postal voting fraud that made him the most powerful figure in TH.

    Where are when it’s the non elected IFE decides which charities get a grant.
    Where are you when Jewish people are attacked in the street, no where to be found, you have failed and now you provoke attacks against working class people, shame on you.

    • The real AL
      September 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      and where were you? Getting lashed at whetherspoons, putting pigs heads outside Mosques, smashing up kebab shops?

  5. Arthur
    September 2, 2011 at 9:52 am

    The real AL :
    and where were you? Getting lashed at whetherspoons, putting pigs heads outside Mosques, smashing up kebab shops?

    Don’t drink mate, can’t afford it on my pension. No true EDLer does things like that, all we want is to have our voices heard and by tomorrow the whole world will know what’s going on in TH.
    You should be with us against the Islamofascist, not fighting on their side, this is a class war against injustice and you are quite plainly on the wrong side. You would rather defend a sexist, gay bashing, Jew hating ideology than march with your working class brothers and sisters.

    You are, along with your friends in the UAF and SWP, assisting the state and the police to close protests down all over London, the arms fair protest is one among many that is now banned. Yet you are supposed to be Anarchists, how can that be when you are on the side of the state.

    • Internet Hat Machine
      September 2, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      Obviously you know fuck all about anarchists if you think any of us would ever assist the police.

    • Old Rubber Ducky
      September 2, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      i) No true EDLer does things like that, eh? Well, no true Muslim goes and blows other people up or is necessarily intolerant of other people’s cultures, beliefs or orientations. Especially those that have been born and have grown up in Britain – of whom seem to be the biggest problem here.
      ii) As Islamofascism is a concept totally born out of the imagination of the EDL, the BNP, UKIP and so forth…no.
      iii) I know plenty of Muslims that aren’t sexist, are fine with gay people, don’t really care if people are Jewish, Christian, Sikh or otherwise.
      iv) Don’t make this out to be a class issue. It’s because you find it difficult to accept change. Yes, you might find you come across a brown face more often. Personally, I think it brightens up a rather dull environment!
      v) AFAIK, the UAF, SWP, Alarm and other anti-fascist and left wing groups, work together fairly loosely. The SWP, Alarm and others are extremely distrusting of the police and wouldn’t work with them on issues; please do not pull shit out of your arse and try and disguise it as facts. 😉
      vi) Again, these groups contain highly active campaigners. Why on Earth would they encourage closing down protests?
      vii) See point vi).

  6. Arthur
    September 2, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Internet Hat Machine :
    Obviously you know fuck all about anarchists if you think any of us would ever assist the police.

    But that is precisely what you are doing by siding with the David Cameron supported UAF, which is really run by the communist SWP.

    The EDL march was banned not because of what they might do but because of all the leaflets and the stirring up of the muslim youth by yourselves and UAF/SWP and the state has jumped at the chance of banning all marches, they needed an excuse and you have given them that.

    • Internet Hat Machine
      September 2, 2011 at 5:21 pm

      Actually pretty much all anarchist groups have been opposed to the banning of the march, and although we have common ground with the UAF that does not mean we support it entirely.

      Given the outcome of the EDL’s marches in the past it’s only natural for the youth to want to defend their areas, not because of any stirring up. They’re not going to resist just because they’ve been told to.

      • Arthur
        September 2, 2011 at 5:58 pm

        What common ground?

        Yes, because they have been led to believe they need to resist by rumours, at the last called off demo, locals were told that EDL had raped a muslim women, that they had ripped hi-jabs off, beaten a muslim up and were going to attack a mosque, all this and EDL were not even there, Galloway gave an incendiary speech and talked about 10,000 dead bodies.

        Now much the same is going on this time and the situation is being inflamed, deliberately so, why is this, a demo is being turned into a war and I ask myself who gains from this?

        A peaceful but rowdy march with a bit of flag waving and chanting is being turned into some thing that will be unpleasant, with tempers being lost on both sides and I ask , who gains and you and I both know the answer, the state, in it’s quest to shut down all dissent from the working classes.

    • Old Rubber Ducky
      September 2, 2011 at 10:01 pm

      You actively seek out to destroy the Muslim communities in Britain, which completely detracts from the fact that Muslims really are no different to anyone else.

      Your argument there is really a lose-lose situation, because, the only way to stop people from becoming angry and hostile on the other side is by taking away that other side before they get angry and hostile. But, they wouldn’t be angry and hostile if there weren’t people (i.e. you, the EDL) encouraging them to do so.

      Personally, I am not an anarchist, but I’ve not sought out the banning of this march either. I don’t know anyone on the left who has. Pray tell, where have you gained all of this ‘insight’ from? Daily Express is -2 points, Daily Mail -5 points, and Stormfront -50 points.

  7. Sergio Alverez
    September 2, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Arthur:
    I will attempt to bridge an argument here, you seem like a reasonable and well minded fella, albeit of a different generation to me, which most likely goes halfway to explaining why a group like EDL, and the totalitarian form of “democracy” that it claims to be defending (which is a whole other matter) appeals to your mindset. I apologise up front for any kind of nonsense mistake i make, I’m often quite erratic with my typing, and lose focus of the things I say / write.

    You’ve made some very valid points I feel. UAF are (in my opinion) no better than EDL, they have strong links to SWP, and that makes me uncomfortable. I, as an anarchist, do not see ANY person as being able to speak for me. SWP and EDL both put strong faith in a “democratic” system, where (in theory) I vote for a man to speak for me… why not just speak for myself? there seems to be a lot of mud-slinging going on between the two organisations, which seems pointless to me, you both seem to give the other a reason to exist! I personally stand apart from UAF, just as i do EDL, just as i do “Militant Islam”. don’t think for a second that i support any of you. we may agree on some points, but simply because you and i think one person enforcing their will through means of religion is wrong… doesn’t make us best buddies.

    There has been violence towards people that oppose / don’t see eye to eye with Islam (at least i think there is?!? anyone confirm?), however EDL have also created a fair amount of violence in the past. Which begs the question if its good for you, then why not them? the argument that;

    “No true EDLer does things like that…”

    is old and tired. No true Muslim would use violence as a voice. it goes against there religious principles and ideas, just the same as it does in Christianity and indeed Judaism. Yet still violence occurs in their name. So either the teachers are crap, or the students are stupid. either way it needs to be sorted.

    You argued that the EDL march would be a “peaceful but rowdy march”. I don’t see how march (potentially) 10,000 drunken racists through a Bangladeshi ghetto is anything but a declaration of war! How do you think that this will help? How will exacerbating an already trodden down and voiceless community possibly help? The reasons given are (something along the lines of) “Exposing the true face of the islamofacist” or some such shit. how about you clean your own ranks of non-sympathisers, holocaust deniers and general racist fuckwits before claiming some kind of moral / political high ground.

    The people of TH can handle their own. EDL coming to TH simply makes the weak links in the community more sympathetic to outrageous ideas.

    I think I’m done here.

  8. Trumpton Rioter
    September 2, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Arthur, Arthur, let’s put you right on a few things. Because people protest against the EDL doesn’t mean they side with Muslim extremists nor does it mean they want to ban the EDL from ever marching again. Those who wish to confrtont th EDL’s “marches” do so because they don’t share your ridiculous belief system about muslims and foreigners in general. The request for a ban in Tower Hamlets, which I disagree with, was because of the incendiary nature of that particular march: wrong place, wrong time so to speak.

    You call yourself a “true-EDLer”, whatever that means – probably trying to distance yourself from the thugs and racists who seem to dominate your organisation. I’ve no doubt you’re concerned about Islamic extremism but, come on pal, you lot really blow everything out of proportion don’t you. Muslims are NOT taking over, nor are they a bigger threat to this country’s culture and traditions than Corporate Capitalism and American Cultural Imperialism. You want to stop reading the tabloids and listening to conspiracy theories.

    Finally, “A peaceful but rowdy march with a bit of flag waving and chanting is being turned into some thing that will be unpleasant”: that made me fucking laugh my arse out of the chair that did! Just about sums up the daft rhetoric of EDL followers like you.

  9. Sergio Alverez
    September 2, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Sergio Alverez :
    Arthur:

    You argued that the EDL march would be a “peaceful but rowdy march”. I don’t see how march (potentially) 10,000 drunken racists through a Bangladeshi ghetto is anything but a declaration of war! How do you think that this will help? How will exacerbating an already trodden down and voiceless community possibly help? The reasons given are (something along the lines of) “Exposing the true face of the islamofacist” or some such shit. how about you clean your own ranks of nazi-sympathisers, holocaust deniers and general racist fuckwits before claiming some kind of moral / political high ground.

    mod: anyu chance of fitting an “edit” button?

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